tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post119319904022130665..comments2023-09-26T09:22:37.067+01:00Comments on Raindrops and Daydreams: Anime review: Sengoku Basara Judge End episode 7Yhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16381673934103256374noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-32614026288745797032014-08-19T02:57:33.832+01:002014-08-19T02:57:33.832+01:00well still no masamune good appearance :( is he re...well still no masamune good appearance :( is he really a main character in this show l don't think until now yukimura and Ieyasu appear more than him that make me super sad Unfortunately but l'm going to drop this show because masamune isn't a main character any more :"""( <br />also l have many friend who drop this show for the same reason too T___TAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08846351865502728658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-44878202244294515642014-08-18T23:51:05.144+01:002014-08-18T23:51:05.144+01:00Some good points, but I have to stand up for Moton...Some good points, but I have to stand up for Motonari! I have no idea why but I love his horrible personality to pieces. He reminds me of a cat. Of course, even though I love him anyway, Okra definitely deserves everything he gets.<br /><br />The (relatively) kind way that Mitsunari speaks to Gyoubu is scarier than his usual approach of drawing his sword every time someone upsets him. If I was Gyoubu during that scene I'd have been sweating in terror under the bandages ^^;<br /><br />I'm sort of curious about what happened to Tsuruhime during the fighting, I forgot about her after Kasuga charged in to the rescue. It would be sweet of Tsuruhime to worry about the mysterious infiltrator who risked her life to save her.<br /><br />It's looking as though every single faction (of those which appear in <i>Judge End</i>) has a good reason to keep appearing for a while yet.Raindrops and Daydreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260862819130130353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-47815180974844274132014-08-18T23:33:50.360+01:002014-08-18T23:33:50.360+01:00Ah, finally got back from work and the conversatio...Ah, finally got back from work and the conversation has developed!<br /><br />The way I saw it (as a person less emotionally invested in Yukimura ^^) is that he was so worried about Oichi that he was doing his best for what he thought was the greater good. When it cut to him and Sasuke after Tenkai attacked that poor guard, I could almost feel the tension - but he seemed to acknowledge earlier in the episode that he had to work with the team for such a risky mission to be successful. <br /><br />I would have liked a more traditional approach with him just bursting through the main gates alone (even if the others ignored him and snuck in anyway...it could have been pretty funny depending on how it played out) but I guess they're trying to show that he's trying to be responsible and work with the army he's allied with. The Yukimura I'm used to is always going with his own feelings (or those of Oyakata-sama, as much as he's able to understand what his mentor would do) but his relationship with Mitsunari isn't a completely equal one any more than Masamune is on equal terms with Ieyasu, and he has to show a slightly different side of himself in order to function in the Western Army.<br /><br />I think that Yukimura has a lot of potential in the Western Army now that it's already been fully formed halfway through the series; he's the only person on that side who I'd consider truly honorable without his heart being clouded by blind loyalty (Muneshige) or anger (Mitsunari). Without him there, the whole faction looks like a bunch of villains with some morally ambiguous helpers at this point in the story, while Yukimura alone helps humanise it. His fight with Mitsunari showed that joining was a decision he put a lot of thought into, and if Gyoubu hadn't strung him along by making it about a kidnapped girl then I'm sure he'd have been very difficult to persuade into a castle infiltration. I'd really like to see a scene of him kicking up a fuss at some later sneaky plot to make this part of his personality more clear to new viewers. <br /><br />However, I completely understand how you feel if watching him being walked all over, plot-wise, is making you annoyed. I'm probably a cruel person since I don't mind watching Masamune's reputation being stomped on at all ^^;;<br /><br />Apologies for the drowsy rambling!Raindrops and Daydreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260862819130130353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-55801819209483350492014-08-18T18:21:50.732+01:002014-08-18T18:21:50.732+01:00There will definitely be character deaths, but yes...There will definitely be character deaths, but yes as long as Matsunaga doesn't suddenly shows up to explode everyone there probably won't be Utage leves of crazy. I hope. <br />I kinda don't want Tadatsugu to die now I've started do like him a bit. If Gyoubu dies, Mitsunari will be so fucking sad...and he doesn't need more of that at the moment :(Lumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11929000776208683128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-88838102667502602672014-08-18T18:08:38.863+01:002014-08-18T18:08:38.863+01:00"He's just a okra shaped dick" Lol!..."He's just a okra shaped dick" Lol! Agree that his Sunday self redeems him a bit. <br />It was great that Mitsunari actually confronted Otani about doing things behind his back. Shows some sort of honour and thinking skills. <br /><br />Spoiler???<br />Mitsuhide wants to revive his lord because basically, he wants senpai to notice him (SORRY)<br />No one is as awesome and exciting as Nobunaga so he defintely needs to come back and give him attention and fight him again. That's his motivation, seriously. Lumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11929000776208683128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-43599212094734083322014-08-18T09:55:01.392+01:002014-08-18T09:55:01.392+01:00It's not the story development (although I hav...It's not the story development (although I have issues with that, too)... it's the idea of him, of all people, sneaking around under cover and not confronting something that he doesn't approve of. Being honorable, direct and disliking underhanded things are some of Yukimura's basic character traits, and this was painfully out of character for him. What's next, stabbing someone in the back because he's the enemy and it's no time to find another method, so it's OK? :/ This just further strengthens the impression I'm getting from the show in general, that writer has no grasp on the characters... <br /><br />Perhaps I'm looking at this from the wrong perspective, but I've been having an increasingly hard time accepting (never mind enjoying) JE's treatment of Yukimura, and, along with my other issues with JE and this episode in particular, I guess this was the last straw. :/<br /><br />By the way, I do agree that he looks very nice, unfortunately the nice design is wasted on this animation and character "development"...kuromitsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100703423516223003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-87967221126432279592014-08-18T09:41:48.014+01:002014-08-18T09:41:48.014+01:00So I missed this in the SenBasa lore, but if Mitsu...So I missed this in the SenBasa lore, but if Mitsuhide is the one that betrayed/killed Oda, why does he want to revive him? Or is that actually wrong, 'cause I still haven't caught up with the animes >.><br /><br />So much stuff went down this episode. Mitsunari, all things considered, isn't an awful person. Very honourable dude all around, just major rage issues. So it was nice to see him end things peacefully (more or less) with Motochika. He's still way too nice to Yoshitsugu, lol. Going by the game, it doesn't seem like he's out to betray Mitsunari and even cares for him in his own way, but he's gonna make sooo many enemies for his boy, yeesh >.><br /><br />But yeah, I hope Mori is ready for the pain. Even after all this time, I could never really find myself liking his character. He's just a okra shaped dick, srsly. But I guess his Sunday incarnation helps to compensate his misdeeds, olol<br /><br />I'm glad Yukimura won some brownie points at last, saving Matsu and all. He's my fave character, but I can't help but cringe when I see him stumbling so often. Even Masamune is seen as mature a lot of times, Ieyasu got a major overhaul in his character of course, but Sanada keeps falling. It's so disheartening. It's like they wanna keep him a Shingen-fanboy puppy for his entire life. I know they tried to give him a "struggling" arc in SB3, but then they never went beyond that -_-<br /><br />(Ugh, sorry, digressing. Anyways...)<br /><br />I kind of want to see Kasuga get saved by Kenshin, but unless Oichi and her shadows are brought to the battle field (and how creepy if she still keeps holding on them bodies the whole time O_O) to be engaged in battle, I dunno...I guess escaping is just as good, although it would be nice of Sasuke and Yukimura tried to go back for her somehow...<br /><br />As for Oda, I figured there was a 50/50 chance of him showing up. As omnious as that vision of Ieyasu was covered and crying blood, if there's a bigger threat to make Mistunari have to work with Ieyasu, that whole drama can be avoided for a while. Maybe ignored at the end even (or they can do a surprise counter-attack where Ieyasu kills him without really meaning too, awww...).Mellusiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06519570525090028848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-17730525480334626162014-08-18T08:28:43.855+01:002014-08-18T08:28:43.855+01:00The amount of points in this summary shows just ho...The amount of points in this summary shows just how much they're packing into each episode, doesn't it? :D<br /><br />I think Gyoubu will be able to smooth things over with Yukimura and keep him loyal to Mitsunari, so long as he shows how shocked he is about Tenkai's betrayal. Mitsunari will probably be really angry which will help convince Yukimura that they really were tricked (perhaps they can even convince him that Tenkai was acting on Ieyasu's orders somehow since the Tokugawa had prepared an ambush and 'brainwashed' Motochika to leave? Hmm...). <br /><br />Kenshin returning to the main plot again would be awesome!Raindrops and Daydreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260862819130130353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-1127556179266856782014-08-18T08:22:40.408+01:002014-08-18T08:22:40.408+01:00Mewshuji: At least they will probably reset the st...<b>Mewshuji</b>: At least they will probably reset the story again if they do another anime adaptation after this, but I think that making Yukimura and Sasuke emotionally invested in Kasuga's fate is a good sign she's still ok for now. Poor Yukimura really doesn't need another reason to get angsty so soon after recovering from his worries about Shingen. And yes, I agree about Motochika - that's one advantage of the quick pacing, I guess. It didn't feel as though he was tricked for too long and he acknowledged how foolish he'd been, then took immediate action; he came off rather well. I'm interested to see whether Keiji's group will stay linked to Ieyasu's or continue as a third faction when it's time for the final battle.<br /><br /><b>Lumi S</b>: Noo a <i>Butai Sengoku Basara 3 Utage</i> ending would be way too depressing even for <i>Judge End</i>! At least, that's what I think so long as Hisahide doesn't show up. He seems to be capable of turning anything into a massacre just by getting involved.<br /><br />I think we'll see deaths from Tadatsugu and maybe Gyoubu (*sob*) but I'm hoping that the others stay safe (though it's probably inevitable that Tenkai's scheme is going to cost a few Oda-related characters their lives). I guess it's possible that either Ieyasu or Mitsunari will lose badly at Sekigahara as well if they want to be shocking and kill one of their leads. Raindrops and Daydreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260862819130130353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-32806057219424264282014-08-18T02:42:26.832+01:002014-08-18T02:42:26.832+01:00Where to start from ? 1) Oda's soldiers with s...Where to start from ? 1) Oda's soldiers with swords taken down by Tokugawa's soldiers with guns? Aren't the Oda's soldiers the ones that use fire weapons the most? 2) Mitsunari vs Motochika, loved it, a very passionate moment (like it was back in the game) 3) Finally Mitsunari is questioning Gyobu about his schemes and him if he'll do that again 4) Tadakatsu's flying animations in this episode are so LAME 5) Brainwashed Matsu treated as Tenkai's Ninja ? That's a twist 6) Masamune like to jump off from heights then he disappears with Kojurou to nowhere 7) Ok Yukimura accepted since he did think they were going to rescue Oichi but how is he going to be with the West anymore ? Maybe Gyobu will convince him that Tenkai made it all by himself (its the truth after all) 8) Kasuga saved Tsurihime, good job 9) Tsurihime = Ranmaru to Oichi 10) Fuuma hit and run 11) Oda comeback again ? Let's see 12) Kenshin join the fray to rescue Kasuga ? Hell Yeahoxaiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08056290078524931418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-58799770384188954022014-08-17T12:28:16.533+01:002014-08-17T12:28:16.533+01:00Well Yukimura found himself in really unexpectedly...Well Yukimura found himself in really unexpectedly bad company but he did it too free Oichi. Remember, he thought that Ieyasu was being a bad guy. <br />Yukimura and Sasuke clearly disapproved of the killing of the guard, it just wasn't time to start something. <br />Clearly your feelings as a fan are very different from mine, I have enjoyed Yukimura a lot in JE. Plus he is a total hottie :DLumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11929000776208683128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-82577067610883338262014-08-17T12:22:25.906+01:002014-08-17T12:22:25.906+01:00I have worried about characters being killed off, ...I have worried about characters being killed off, too. JE is obviously not shying away from being tragic. Raindrops, you said that the writers had taken some inspiration from the stage pays if I remember correctly. And that makes me think of the Utage stageplay D: Total slaughterfest. <br />I wonder if they're going full original story mode now or continue to be faithful to SB3 in some ways. Lumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11929000776208683128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-74350911143481175692014-08-17T12:11:00.518+01:002014-08-17T12:11:00.518+01:00They're doing a good job with Kasuga in this a...They're doing a good job with Kasuga in this adaption; I don't usually care much about her but I like her more in this. Oichi grabbed her with the dark hands so she is in danger of being absorbed most of all. They could possibly use her as a hostage to manipulate the Takeda/Kenshin. That would truly suck and be bad writing. 4 out of only 5 female warriors in need of some male rescuing. <br /><br />I also love when they use the game moves! <br /><br />Yes now that Tenkai has teamed up with his ultra murder ally Oichi, will Kingo be discarded or hang out with them? He wanted to join up with Ieyasu and there is a good chance that he will do it. He was even blushing when Ieyasu offered a manly bond with him ha. <br /><br />As for Sakai, he probably just stands around and orders people while flexing his muscles in cool JoJo poses. Lumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11929000776208683128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-84579482791862253072014-08-17T02:56:25.741+01:002014-08-17T02:56:25.741+01:00I was happy to see Kasuga, Keiji and Motochika aga...I was happy to see Kasuga, Keiji and Motochika again, and I especially liked that Kasuga and Sasuke shared a scene, but... I promise this is the last time I'm being a Debbie Downer and an unfairly biased character fan, but whatever happened in this episode I just can't get over how they had Yukimura actually sneaking(!) into Sunpu Castle to kidnap(!!) someone... and then he just looked on as Tenkai was being his usual cruel self, until there was a plot excuse for him to be outraged. (And this is supposed to be <i>after</i> he's pulled himself together and got out of his slump?!) Also, I was kind of waiting for Masamune to at least mention him (since he ended up having no part in Masamune getting out of his own slump), but not even that... I've been trying to enjoy this show for what it is, but at the same time I've been feeling that what they're doing with Yukimura is just too much for quite a while now, and I guess this episode was the straw that broke the camel's back. :/ <br /><br />I think from now on I'll just stick to reading your summaries - well, unless something truly awesome happens, which is, at this point, rather unlikely. :/ It's really too bad.kuromitsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100703423516223003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-24265865925573569372014-08-17T00:50:02.390+01:002014-08-17T00:50:02.390+01:00Really tired, i'll comment tomorroow (its 2 AM...Really tired, i'll comment tomorroow (its 2 AM now)oxaiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08056290078524931418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-8206440827840346532014-08-16T23:23:48.308+01:002014-08-16T23:23:48.308+01:00Hm, I didn't consider that. You're right, ...Hm, I didn't consider that. You're right, Tenkai isn't exactly... well known for thinking straight when it comes to Nobunaga. Especially based off of SB4, ahaha.<br /><br />Ah, indeed, don't get me wrong I love that she got a great battle scene, Oichi too! Especially happy Tsuru got to interact with her, if a bit disappointed they didn't really connect. I'm just very protective of the Uesugi, so aha. I also may be a bit of a hypocrite as I don't mind the characters dying in the games but that's because there are multiple routes. In these adaptations, unless they're Mitsuhide, Dairokutenmaou himself, or inexplicably Ieyasu, they gone for good.<br /><br />Also kinda glad that Motochika finally wizened up and decided to ask Ieyasu himself. He's a dunderhead but not enough to be tricked as hard as he was in his default route of SB3 itself, I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-65274266834923439412014-08-16T23:05:48.650+01:002014-08-16T23:05:48.650+01:00It's very possible that Tenkai hasn't thou...It's very possible that Tenkai hasn't thought this through all that well in his crazed desire for more Nobunaga :)<br /><br />I don't think they can possibly kill Kasuga off; she's far too tough in this adaptation (even if half my Twitter timeline shrieked 'butt!' in admiration when she got her cool battle scene this time)! Everything is Sasuke's fault for jinxing them when he started feeling protective on the way to the castle...Raindrops and Daydreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260862819130130353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-7222484306748815012014-08-16T23:02:22.041+01:002014-08-16T23:02:22.041+01:00Haha, it's probably no wonder that Magoichi...Haha, it's probably no wonder that Magoichi's investigation was able to locate Matsu so easily as soon as she was out in the open. Though the Tenkai cosplay mask still seemed to trick a few people...<br /><br />I'm a little worried for poor Kingo, now - it is difficult to imagine that Tenkai is going back to the Western Army now (and if he tries, Yukimura might raise a very reasonable objection). Who's going to look after the cowardly gourmet from now on and protect him from the influence of people like Sourin?<br /><br />Kasuga was so cool in this episode that I'm sure she'll be fine, though probably very angry if she's allowed to regain consciousness. I get a thrill whenever someone uses one of their proper moves from the games *_*<br /><br />I wonder whether Sakai Tadatsugu actually uses any kind of weapon at all, unless he's a fist fighter like his boss? Maybe he just stands around with his rippling muscles and orders other people to attack. Otherwise, he seemed to be unarmed even in his own ambush...Raindrops and Daydreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01260862819130130353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-69009141964790583842014-08-16T22:45:55.506+01:002014-08-16T22:45:55.506+01:00Either Kasuga's dead, Tenkai expects to be abl...Either Kasuga's dead, Tenkai expects to be able to revive Nobunaga before Kenshin can mobilize, or I've completely misjudged Kenshin. One of the three. <br /><br />I hope only the center is true. ;; I don't know if I'd have it in me to actually like this anime anymore if they killed her off or ruined my image of Kenshin, lol. Anyway wow never expected that role for Matsu! Definitely a very action-packed episode! Clearly things really will be picking up steam from now on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361352180531330342.post-75200559165530261052014-08-16T22:04:29.594+01:002014-08-16T22:04:29.594+01:00Lolol WTF well that was great. Every single freaki...Lolol WTF well that was great. Every single freaking character (ok not all) crammed into Ieyasu’s basement and wreaking havoc. He is in for shock when he comes back to his base. Great to see Oichi's full freaky power on. Lol at Tenkai ”hiding” Matsu by giving her a matching mask, awesome disguise dude. <br />I wondered if Mr Hot Limit was going to bite the dust there but angry disposable Oda dude died instead, how fortunate. <br /><br />After the previous angsting it was suprising how short the Aniki and also Keiji angst moments were, quite effective scenes though. Poor Aniki. <br /><br />I didn’t notice that Kasuga is now a hostage instead, I sure hope JE won’t disempower/nerf mainly the female characters now that things are getting serious. <br /><br />Hmm what was that at the end? Vague hint of possible Mitsunari and Ieyasu reconciliation?!Lumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11929000776208683128noreply@blogger.com